Comments on: MicroID and Social Webs of Trust http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/ Manage your online identity. Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:00:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Fred Stutzman http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-400 Fred Stutzman Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:21:33 +0000 http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/#comment-400 Nicolas - MicroID is valuable as it lets you claim one, or all pages. We are working on standardizing the MicroID with the microformats community. Yes, attempting to get a standard is a difficult process, but we believe this idea is valuable enough to give it a shot. Regarding short-duration claims, don't see how this would prevent someone from adding a microid to a comment, for example. We realize that adoption takes time, but MicroID is so trivial to implement, we hope that it helps our case. Please see http://microid.org/blog for updates, GPL code, etc. Nicolas – MicroID is valuable as it lets you claim one, or all pages. We are working on standardizing the MicroID with the microformats community. Yes, attempting to get a standard is a difficult process, but we believe this idea is valuable enough to give it a shot.

Regarding short-duration claims, don’t see how this would prevent someone from adding a microid to a comment, for example. We realize that adoption takes time, but MicroID is so trivial to implement, we hope that it helps our case. Please see http://microid.org/blog for updates, GPL code, etc.

]]> By: Nicolas Delsaux http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-399 Nicolas Delsaux Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:28:08 +0000 http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/#comment-399 Pardon my ignorance, but it won't change many things. indeed, they are plenty of sites where I want to claim *one* page as mine, but where I can't edit the page or even ask the admin to add this microID (as an example, my french page on LinuxFr http://linuxfr.org/~Riduidel is a good example). I wonder why it's not possible to check the identity based on the presence of the microID on the page, instead of in the header. I think it's mainly due to your will of this microID not to be known. I can however suggest you a hack : using expiring microID with short validity duration (like, say, 5 minutes), I could add a message to this server with the microID inside and, immediatly after, ask claimID to check that I'm really the owner of this page. Furthermore, there are plenty of community sites, even in the smaller web 2.0 world. Are you really considering adding this feature to all those sites ? Well, it's really a big turn in the web world. Pardon my ignorance, but it won’t change many things. indeed, they are plenty of sites where I want to claim *one* page as mine, but where I can’t edit the page or even ask the admin to add this microID (as an example, my french page on LinuxFr http://linuxfr.org/~Riduidel is a good example).
I wonder why it’s not possible to check the identity based on the presence of the microID on the page, instead of in the header.
I think it’s mainly due to your will of this microID not to be known.
I can however suggest you a hack : using expiring microID with short validity duration (like, say, 5 minutes), I could add a message to this server with the microID inside and, immediatly after, ask claimID to check that I’m really the owner of this page.
Furthermore, there are plenty of community sites, even in the smaller web 2.0 world. Are you really considering adding this feature to all those sites ? Well, it’s really a big turn in the web world.

]]> By: Fred Stutzman http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-246 Fred Stutzman Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:07:10 +0000 http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/#comment-246 Richard, that's an interesting use. The problem I see is that the microid needs to be a hash of a communication identifier (email) and a url - and you can only have that after you've uploaded the picture. However, creating a unique MicroID-like hash (out of your email and a checksum of the photo) would create an insteresting verifiable signature. V interesting.. Richard, that’s an interesting use. The problem I see is that the microid needs to be a hash of a communication identifier (email) and a url – and you can only have that after you’ve uploaded the picture. However, creating a unique MicroID-like hash (out of your email and a checksum of the photo) would create an insteresting verifiable signature. V interesting..

]]> By: Richard King http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-243 Richard King Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:01:40 +0000 http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/#comment-243 All this thinking about photos has given me another idea. What would happen if EXIF data fields were extended to include MicroIDs? If the MicroID were saved in the .jpeg file itself, you'd be associated with that photo wherever it showed up. This could ease the process of complying with Creative Commons licenses that require Attribution, and go some way to detecting opportunist plagarism (I know a determined person could just copy the image and edit out the tag). What say you? <a href="http://claimid.com/richard-king" rel="nofollow"></a> All this thinking about photos has given me another idea. What would happen if EXIF data fields were extended to include MicroIDs? If the MicroID were saved in the .jpeg file itself, you’d be associated with that photo wherever it showed up. This could ease the process of complying with Creative Commons licenses that require Attribution, and go some way to detecting opportunist plagarism (I know a determined person could just copy the image and edit out the tag). What say you?

]]> By: Fred Stutzman http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-224 Fred Stutzman Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:31:14 +0000 http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/#comment-224 Great post Roger! Thanks for the link. Great post Roger! Thanks for the link.

]]> By: Roger http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/comment-page-1/#comment-221 Roger Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:20:14 +0000 http://blog.claimid.com/2006/06/microid-and-social-webs-of-trust/#comment-221 Hi guys, I am glad you finally launched, I look forward to seeing what happens in the future with the effort you are spear heading. Also I posted on my blog a discussion piece that relates to your organisation, but in a wider concept of how your work complements that of others. I hope someone gets a chance to take a read. Cheers, Roger <a> http://prof.rogerkondrat.com/2006/06/24/what-do-rapleaf-blogging-and-claimid-have-in-common</a> The simple fact is they are all based on trust - either providing trust or being supported by it. Never heard of these three before? Okay maybe you heard about blogging but did you think about trust much when you did your blogging or when you read what others blogged? This is early days in the blogosphere and so like most small towns today (or according to ‘bowling for columbine’ most of Canada) we don’t yet lock our doors because everyone knows everyone else (not to be taken too literally). Hi guys,

I am glad you finally launched, I look forward to seeing what happens in the future with the effort you are spear heading.

Also I posted on my blog a discussion piece that relates to your organisation, but in a wider concept of how your work complements that of others. I hope someone gets a chance to take a read.

Cheers,
Roger


http://prof.rogerkondrat.com/2006/06/24/what-do-rapleaf-blogging-and-claimid-have-in-common
The simple fact is they are all based on trust – either providing trust or being supported by it.

Never heard of these three before? Okay maybe you heard about blogging but did you think about trust much when you did your blogging or when you read what others blogged? This is early days in the blogosphere and so like most small towns today (or according to ‘bowling for columbine’ most of Canada) we don’t yet lock our doors because everyone knows everyone else (not to be taken too literally).

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